>>484019>There is no left leaning party in America but Democrats are certainly to the right of the Republican party. That much is clear to me.Not that anon, but… You're not gonna like it, but I take issue with this - I don't think the Dems are meaningfully to the right of the GOP, they're basically the same party at this point, with the Dems vaguely pretending to be somewhat more liberal but ultimately engaging in the same culture war bullshit and failing to stop any stupid suppressive policies based on said culture war bullshit.
>So trying to engage with conservatives doesn't seem to be that stupid of an idea. A lot of American workers lean conservative if I'm not mistaken, no?Conservatism in the US is mostly an astroturfed ideology at this point. I basically agree with the premise that there's nothing wrong with working with them, there are plenty of genuine conservative workers, but they aren't the majority, and conservatism among the working class is ultimately pushed cynically in order to keep people focused on dumb non-class bullshit the same way idpol liberalism is. There's this feedback loop where rural & urban folks are both purposefully convinced that they have diametrically opposed interests and hate eachother, and they're pushed into increasingly ridiculous positions out of reactive opposition to the worst strawman (or fringe) idea of a "liberal" or "conservative." All this stuff is used as tools to keep people away from class consciousness, and so the question emerges… if, you know, evil billionaires are sincerely pushing gayness to corrupt society, if that's a serious & real problem, how would conservative communists fare when they have to compete with billionaires who use the exact same scapegoat without the class politics? Just bashing random homos is a lot easier than actual workers' revolution. "These evil billionaires are funding sexual degeneracy" is pretty easy to turn into "we need to get rid of these sexual degenerates and only some billionaires who support degenerates are bad," and both of these are positions unnecessarily obsessed with sex and underestimate how cynical the billionaires themselves are, and it leaves an opportunity wide open for the Hobby Lobby guy to swoop in and redirect the masses to just unleash their aggression on a scapegoat.
He could be onto something though, idk.